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xxxkristinaxxx

Feeding advice please

Nov 27 2007, 1:40 PM EST by xxxkristinaxxx

Thread started: Nov 25 2007, 3:00 PM EST Watch

Hi, Samson is turned out 24/7. Our fields are sparse in winter and they don't have a lot of grass to eat between three of them.
Sam gets a big hay net in the morning and a big hay net at night. I am not sure if he gets one midday I doubt it.
In the morning he gets half a scoop of leisure mix which isn't much really, and then half a scoop of garlic honeychop, and selenivite which is a good all round vitamin and mineral supplement and especially for selenium deficiencies. He did have a whole scoop of honeychop but he has too much energy at the moment.
He is a good weight, he has a bit of a belly, but I can feel his ribs easily so I suppose hes a good weight!
He is only fizzy when I haven't ridden over 3 or more days. I know that honeychop is quite high in sugar and I am going to change it to a lower sugar and higher fibre chaff when he finishes this bag.

What do you recommend, I was thinking about giving him a bit less leisure mix because I only ride three times a week.

I haven't weighed him with a weight tape yet, but I think it would be a good idea.
He is regularly wormed so his pot belly must be a grass belly

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Help with exercising my "part loan" 5 year old.

Nov 22 2007, 4:13 PM EST by SLW84

Thread started: Nov 20 2007, 4:00 PM EST Watch

I have a gorgeous 15.2hh black ride and drive on part loan. He is 5 years old and called Sam. We have had him for two months. He belongs to the man who owns the private yard where Sam is kept. I was the one who tried Sam out, because his owner doesn't know much about horses and wanted to LEARN to drive. At the time I did not know that he didn't know anything about horses yet along not knowing how to drive a horse.
Sam is a great all rounder, but can be really naughty and does some stupid naps just to try me out all the time. He does not get away with these but can be quite dangerous, for example he nearly backed into a car. Not out of fear though out of stubbornness all because he wanted to go the other way.
I had done so much work with him and even though he is just on loan to me he is like my own. I even had to buy a saddle for him which was specially fitted. His owner said I can ride him until I'm 99 though, and I have got a share agreement.
The thing is I have been recommended by one of our county's best horsey person to school him out of his naughtiness then only when he is well behaved and I have full control and he has learnt his lesson then I can hack him out. However this is not possible as our fields are too boggy until summer time. I can't afford to hire a school one a week nether mind once a day!
He is really naughty when I try to hack him out alone and he won't lunge.
I fear that when his owner tries to drive him (without any experience and a green horse) that he will just ruin all the work I have done as he is heavy handed and Sam can be strong sometimes.
I am in two minds, I love this horse to bits however I can't school him and I can see him get even naughtier down the line, especially that I am only riding 3 days a week now.
Any suggestions would be appreciated!

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RE: Help with exercising my "part loan" 5 year old.
By: SLW84, Nov 22 2007, 4:13 PM EST

"Thanks for such an understanding reply! I have thought things through decided that I am going to carry on riding Samson and school as I hack. Like you said walk for 10 strides etc. This way he will be listening and learning while hacking.
The share agreement (I made it) is basically the BHS loan agreement but with a lot of things taken out. So basically it is to my advantage, I have also stated no one is to use my tack and equipment, and that it will be fore 2 years unless something happens. And if the horse is to be sold I shall get first refusal. And just things about insurance and that vet bills and dentistry etc. are the owners responsibility.
I am sharing him and have as much say as he does, but he owns the horse and pays for the majority of things for him. I pay for half the shoes, and towards some feeds and supplements. I do have to arrange the rugs, worming, shoeing etc because he is not knowlegable enough to do so.

I shall have to talk to him, but I am not sure what I can say to make him realise that driving a 5 year old horse with little experience is not a good idea. He knows he naps and has seem him napping, but he seems to think he wouldn't do this in a cart.
I do not want him ruined as its all my hard work and money which has gone into the riding aspect of the horse, and if he does ruin the horse I will have to pick up the peices.

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Sharing is always difficult in my oppinion. Sometimes it works out well but there are problems even with the best of friends. Sounds as though you have done everything correctly though so well done.
In my experience, when horses are ridden and driven they do tend to prefer one or the other. One irish cob that I schooled years ago was originally a driving horse (I was schooling him ridden) and he never went as well ridden as he did when driven. He was nappy under saddle, very bargy and bolshy but in a trap he was a gent. I think this was because he learned to drive first and got all his confidence in driving. Maybe Sam will be the opposite and stick more to riding than driving. I think you are wise to chat to the owner and just tell him what you have told me. For him to drive this horse when he is inexperienced is likely to cause problems for him and the horse. I would strongly recommend that the owner has some driven training away from Sam before even thinking about starting with him, by which time he should have gained even more confidence under saddle. All horses are different and unique so it difficult to say what the outcome is likely to be. I just think keep doing what you are doing and have a sit down with the owner. Don't forget, I am always here if you need a chat or any further advice. My email address is on the contacts page if you would prefer to get in touch that way, and of course NR!!
Good luck and do keep me posted, you sound like you are doing a good job so just stick with it.
ttfn
Sam

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bellapie

3 year old training

Nov 9 2007, 5:42 PM EST by SLW84

Thread started: Nov 9 2007, 4:34 PM EST Watch

hi,
i have a 3 year old PRE(spanish bred) gelding, he was gelded yesterday!
i was just wondering if you have any ideas of what i can be doing with him. i ride him for a bout 20mins a day 6 days a week. are there any easy exercises i can do that will be interesting and help him learn but not be too difficult for him at this early stage.
also when can i bring him back into work after gelding, i have been told 2 weeks is this about right.
thanx

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Bartiboo

help needed

Nov 8 2007, 9:15 AM EST by Bartiboo

Thread started: Nov 2 2007, 9:32 AM EDT Watch

I bought a gorgeous 7-year-old mare nearly five months ago. The next day I got on her and she bolted before I got my foot in the second stirrup, the saddle slipped when she breathed out (didn't know then how much she puffed herself up!) and I hit the deck - badly! In the weeks that followed I had to desensitise her to everything before I could even think about getting back on board. Mainly lunging and later long-reining, I have got her a lot more flexible and balanced, but her lack of schooling means she is still very green and has no idea of leg aids. It took ages of slowly building up to the process of getting on board and eventually I did, but as soon as she knew you were on her back she took off like a bullet out of a gun. Over the last few weeks the time she has given anyone getting on her before she shoots off has got less and less, to the point where you now don't get time to swing your leg over before she's off. If you hold the reins tight to stop her shooting forward, she goes backwards or sideways just as fast. If you can stick on board, she calms down once she has had her initial 'blast' across the school, and when she is behaving, she has lovely paces. She is brilliant on the ground - even won an inhand class at the only show I have taken her to, and her behaviour there was perfect. Her back, teeth, feet and tack have been checked by experts and she had a 5-stage vetting, so there are no physical problems. It goes without saying that my confidence is dented, but I love her to bits and want to overcome this remaining - but vital - problem. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Tacpot

Welcome

Oct 30 2007, 4:14 AM EDT by SLW84

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Oct 13 2007, 9:16 AM EDT by SLW84

Ruth86

Help Please!!

Sep 21 2007, 3:16 PM EDT by SLW84

Thread started: Sep 21 2007, 8:24 AM EDT Watch

I recently bought a 15hh Anglo Arab mare, she is 5yo but as yet is unbroken. She came from a yard where she was not treated very well and they tried to back her by tying bin bags to her saddle. Due to this she had a horrendous accident which now means she has an incredible fear of being ridden. I have had her for 6 months since the accident, her back has been checked and I am told there is no lasting damage. Although she is 110% to handle and is now working very well on the lunge, long reins (see pic), over fences and hacking in hand I cannot get anywhere near sitting in her. I have tried grooming her from above, which she accepts nervousely, using a dummy, which we couldn't get near her and just laying accross, which she accepts again very nervously but as soon as you sit up above her she freaks out and moves about very quickly until the rider is off, as soon as the rider is off she will stand. I have tried to sell her with the hope that someone more experienced may take her on but without luck. I do not want her to get much older without any work being done. Have you any advice??

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